John Wells - Revision history

Hfrancis at 18:34, 24 October 2015

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	John's birthplace in the censuses is variously given as Isfield, Sussex, and also Loudwater, Middlesex, but they agree he was born in around 1825.		John's birthplace in the censuses is variously given as Isfield, Sussex, and also Loudwater, Middlesex, but they agree he was born in around 1825.

	In 1841 census he was 15, with brother? James Wells 10, at John Gregory's baker shop in Upper Bedford St. Brighton. Ann Colman 14, was at Mepham Green, Herstmonceux, Hailsham District, Sussex, with father? Thomas 58, mother? Lucy 40, and Caleb 12, Ely (?Eliz) 10, Thomas 7, David 3, Edwin 7mths, all b Sussex.		In the 1841 census John was 15, living with his brother James Wells (10), at John Gregory's baker shop in Upper Bedford St. Brighton.

			Ann Colman 14, was at Mepham Green, Herstmonceux, Hailsham District, Sussex, with father? Thomas 58, mother? Lucy 40, and Caleb 12, Ely (?Eliz) 10, Thomas 7, David 3, Edwin 7mths, all b Sussex.

	== Marriage ==		== Marriage ==
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	BMD:M: John Wells/Ann Colman registered in Q4, 1846 Brighton vol:7 page:471.		BMD:M: John Wells/Ann Colman registered in Q4, 1846 Brighton vol:7 page:471.

	~~In 1851 census he was Baker aged 26 b Isfield living at 4 Tidy St. Brighton, with Ann, 23, dressmaker, children John W. 3, and Alfred W. 7 months, and sister Nelly 17 b Isfield.~~


	On the night of 30 March [[Wells Census#1851_TidySt\|1851]], [[John Wells\|John]] and [[Ann Coleman\|Ann Wells]] are living with their family at 4 Tidy Street, Brighton. His son John W. Wells is 3 years old, and [[Alfred Walter Wells\|Alfred]] is 7 months old. John is listed as a baker, and Ann as a dressmaker. His sister Sally Wells (17) is also living with them.		On the night of 30 March [[Wells Census#1851_TidySt\|1851]], [[John Wells\|John]] and [[Ann Coleman\|Ann Wells]] are living with their family at 4 Tidy Street, Brighton. His son John W. Wells is 3 years old, and [[Alfred Walter Wells\|Alfred]] is 7 months old. John is listed as a baker, and Ann as a dressmaker. His sister Sally/Nelly Wells (17) is also living with them.

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	In [[Wells Census#1871_TrafalgarSt\|1871]] [[John Wells\|John]] and [[Ann Coleman\|Ann]] have moved three places up the road to 83 Trafalgar Street, Brighton. They have five children with them, plus a servant.		In [[Wells Census#1871_TrafalgarSt\|1871]] [[John Wells\|John]] and [[Ann Coleman\|Ann]] have moved three places up the road to 83 Trafalgar Street, Brighton. They have five children with them, plus a servant.

			In [[Wells Census#1881_TrafalgarSt\|1881]] John and Ann are still at 83 Trafalgar Street. With them is Ann's mother Lucy Colman (81, born in Alfriston), and their two children Frederick and Charles.


	== Children ==		== Children ==

	* Alfred Walter Wells, christened 13 Jul 1851, St Peter, Brighton.		* John W. Wells (~1848, Brighton)
			* [[Alfred Walter Wells]], christened 13 Jul 1851, St Peter, Brighton.
			* Emily Wells (~1856, Brighton)
			* Clara Wells (~1859, Brighton)
			* Frederick Wells (~1863, Brighton)
			* Charles Wells (~1867, Brighton)

	Now that I know his father was Jacob Wells I have found further info on John Wells' siblings.		Now that I know his father was Jacob Wells I have found further info on John Wells' siblings.

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	\| style="color: white; background:~~darkred~~; " \| Descendant: [[~~Not Created~~\|<span style="color:white;"></span>]]		\| style="color: white; background:darkgreen; " \| Descendant: [[Alfred Walter Wells\|<span style="color:white;">Alfred Walter Wells</span>]]
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			John Wells was the father of [[Alfred Walter Wells]] in 1851.

	~~I don~~'~~t know whether this will add much to what you already know~~.		In 1841 census he was 15, with brother? James Wells 10, at John Gregory's baker shop in Upper Bedford St. Brighton. Ann Colman 14, was at Mepham Green, Herstmonceux, Hailsham District, Sussex, with father? Thomas 58, mother? Lucy 40, and Caleb 12, Ely (?Eliz) 10, Thomas 7, David 3, Edwin 7mths, all b Sussex.

	~~The John Wells/Ann Colman marriage was in 4th qtr 1846 Brighton 7 471.~~		== Marriage ==

	~~In 1851 census he was Baker aged 26 b Isfield living at 4 Tidy St. Brighton, with~~ Ann~~, 23, dressmaker, children John W. 3, and Alfred W. 7 months, and sister Nelly 17 b Isfield.~~		John Wells married [[Ann Coleman]] in 1846

	~~In 1841 census he was 15, with brother? James~~ Wells ~~10, at John Gregory's baker shop in Upper Bedford St. Brighton.~~ Ann Colman ~~14, was at Mepham Green, Herstmonceux, Hailsham District, Sussex, with~~ father? Thomas ~~58, mother? Lucy 40, and Caleb 12, Ely (?Eliz~~) 10, ~~Thomas 7~~, ~~David 3~~, ~~Edwin 7mths, all b Sussex~~.		John Wells (father Jacob Wells) married Ann Colman (father Thomas Colman) 20 Dec 1846 Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England.

	~~I have not been able to locate with certainty any other members of the~~ Wells ~~family~~ in ~~either census. When I tried Nelly in 1841 I came up with Eleanor~~, ~~same age, but definitely not her.~~		BMD:M: John Wells/Ann Colman registered in Q4, 1846 Brighton vol:7 page:471.

	~~Have you any other pre-1837 information? Actual locations in Kent for instance~~.

			In 1851 census he was Baker aged 26 b Isfield living at 4 Tidy St. Brighton, with Ann, 23, dressmaker, children John W. 3, and Alfred W. 7 months, and sister Nelly 17 b Isfield.

	~~John Wells father Jacob Wells married Ann Colman father Thomas Colman 20 Dec 1846 Saint Nicholas,Brighton,Sussex,England~~

	Children		== Children ==

	~~Name:~~ Alfred Walter Wells		* Alfred Walter Wells, christened 13 Jul 1851, St Peter, Brighton.
	~~Gender: Male~~
	~~Christening Date:~~ 13 Jul 1851
	~~Christening Place: Brighton~~, ~~Sussex~~, ~~England~~

	~~Name: Alfred Walter~~
	~~Gender: Male~~
	~~Christening Date: 1851~~
	~~Christening Place: SAINT PETER, BRIGHTON, SUSSEX, ENGLAND~~

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			I don't know whether this will add much to what you already know.

			The John Wells/Ann Colman marriage was in 4th qtr 1846 Brighton 7 471.

			In 1851 census he was Baker aged 26 b Isfield living at 4 Tidy St. Brighton, with Ann, 23, dressmaker, children John W. 3, and Alfred W. 7 months, and sister Nelly 17 b Isfield.

			In 1841 census he was 15, with brother? James Wells 10, at John Gregory's baker shop in Upper Bedford St. Brighton. Ann Colman 14, was at Mepham Green, Herstmonceux, Hailsham District, Sussex, with father? Thomas 58, mother? Lucy 40, and Caleb 12, Ely (?Eliz) 10, Thomas 7, David 3, Edwin 7mths, all b Sussex.

			I have not been able to locate with certainty any other members of the Wells family in either census. When I tried Nelly in 1841 I came up with Eleanor, same age, but definitely not her.

			Have you any other pre-1837 information? Actual locations in Kent for instance.


			John Wells father Jacob Wells married Ann Colman father Thomas Colman 20 Dec 1846 Saint Nicholas,Brighton,Sussex,England

			Children

			Name: Alfred Walter Wells
			Gender: Male
			Christening Date: 13 Jul 1851
			Christening Place: Brighton, Sussex, England

			Name: Alfred Walter
			Gender: Male
			Christening Date: 1851
			Christening Place: SAINT PETER, BRIGHTON, SUSSEX, ENGLAND


			Now that I know his father was Jacob Wells I have found further info on John Wells' siblings.

			In 1841 Jacob Wells was 35 working and living at Paper Mill in Isfield with wife Sophia 35. Neither were born in Sussex.
			Children living with them were all daughters, Betsey 12, Ann 10, Sally (not Nelly as given previously) 7, Eliza 4, and Charlotte 2, all born in Sussex.
			I have not found Jacob in 1851, but Sophia Wells (says married, not widow) 47 was Paper Maker at De Langley Row, Chartham, Kent. It says born in Lewes, Kent! She is with daughter Charlotte 11, b Isfield, son William 6, b Maidstone, and son Walter 1, b Chartham.
			Betsey Wells 22, lived alone at 4 Union Street, Maidstone where she was employed in a paper mill.
			Anna M Wells 19, b Isfield was house servant at Priory Crescent off High St, Lewes.
			Eliza Wells, 15, b Eastfield (sic) was house servant lodging at Regent Hill, Brighton.

			In 1861 census Jacob Wells 59, b Isfield, Sussex, is with wife Sophia 57, b Loose, Kent, and son Walter 10, b Chartham at Perryfield St. Maidstone.

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	John Wells was the father of [[Alfred Walter Wells]] in 1851.		John Wells was the father of [[Alfred Walter Wells]] in 1851.

			John's birthplace in the censuses is variously given as Isfield, Sussex, and also Loudwater, Middlesex, but they agree he was born in around 1825.

	In 1841 census he was 15, with brother? James Wells 10, at John Gregory's baker shop in Upper Bedford St. Brighton. Ann Colman 14, was at Mepham Green, Herstmonceux, Hailsham District, Sussex, with father? Thomas 58, mother? Lucy 40, and Caleb 12, Ely (?Eliz) 10, Thomas 7, David 3, Edwin 7mths, all b Sussex.		In 1841 census he was 15, with brother? James Wells 10, at John Gregory's baker shop in Upper Bedford St. Brighton. Ann Colman 14, was at Mepham Green, Herstmonceux, Hailsham District, Sussex, with father? Thomas 58, mother? Lucy 40, and Caleb 12, Ely (?Eliz) 10, Thomas 7, David 3, Edwin 7mths, all b Sussex.
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	John Wells married [[Ann Coleman]] in 1846		John Wells married [[Ann Coleman]] in 1846

	John Wells (father Jacob Wells) married Ann Colman (father Thomas Colman) ~~20 Dec~~ 1846 Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England.		John Wells (father Jacob Wells) married Ann Colman (father Thomas Colman) on the 20th December 1846, at Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England.

	BMD:M: John Wells/Ann Colman registered in Q4, 1846 Brighton vol:7 page:471.		BMD:M: John Wells/Ann Colman registered in Q4, 1846 Brighton vol:7 page:471.

	In 1851 census he was Baker aged 26 b Isfield living at 4 Tidy St. Brighton, with Ann, 23, dressmaker, children John W. 3, and Alfred W. 7 months, and sister Nelly 17 b Isfield.		In 1851 census he was Baker aged 26 b Isfield living at 4 Tidy St. Brighton, with Ann, 23, dressmaker, children John W. 3, and Alfred W. 7 months, and sister Nelly 17 b Isfield.


			On the night of 30 March [[Wells Census#1851_TidySt\|1851]], [[John Wells\|John]] and [[Ann Coleman\|Ann Wells]] are living with their family at 4 Tidy Street, Brighton. His son John W. Wells is 3 years old, and [[Alfred Walter Wells\|Alfred]] is 7 months old. John is listed as a baker, and Ann as a dressmaker. His sister Sally Wells (17) is also living with them.


			In [[Wells Census#1861_TrafalgarSt\|1861]] John and [[Ann Coleman\|Ann]] have moved to 80 Trafalgar Street, Brighton. They now have four children, and their eldest also called John is also a baker.

			In [[Wells Census#1871_TrafalgarSt\|1871]] [[John Wells\|John]] and [[Ann Coleman\|Ann]] have moved three places up the road to 83 Trafalgar Street, Brighton. They have five children with them, plus a servant.