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| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | Died: [[Not Created|<span style="color:white;"></span>]]
| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | Died: [[Not Created|<span style="color:white;"></span>]]
| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | Married: [[John Smith|<span style="color:white;">John Smith</span>]]
| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | Married: [[John Smith|<span style="color:white;">John Smith</span>]]
| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | Mother: [[Not Created|<span style="color:white;"></span>]]
| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | Mother: [[Phoebe Gay|<span style="color:white;">Phebe Gay</span>]]
| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | Father: [[Not Created|<span style="color:white;"></span>]]
| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | Father: [[Isaac Bartram|<span style="color:white;">Isaac Bartram</span>]]
| style="color: white; background:darkgreen; " | Descendant: [[Phoebe Smith|<span style="color:white;">Phoebe Smith</span>]]
| style="color: white; background:darkgreen; " | Descendant: [[Phoebe Smith|<span style="color:white;">Phoebe Smith</span>]]
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| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | [[Not Created|<span style="color:white;">1841</span>]]  
| style="color: white; background:darkgreen; " | [[Smith Census#1841_MillSt|<span style="color:white;">1841</span>]]  
| style="color: white; background:darkgreen; " | [[Smith Census#1851_MillSt|<span style="color:white;">1851</span>]]  
| style="color: white; background:darkgreen; " | [[Smith Census#1851_MillSt|<span style="color:white;">1851</span>]]  
| style="color: white; background:darkred; " | [[Not Created|<span style="color:white;">1861</span>]]  
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What do we know for sure:


Elizabeth Bartram (sometimes Bertram) was born in around 1819 in Wymondham, Norfolk. She married a [[John Smith]] and they had a daughter called [[Phoebe Smith]].
Elizabeth Bartram (sometimes Bertram) was born in around 1819 in Wymondham, Norfolk. She married a [[John Smith]] and they had a daughter called [[Phoebe Smith]].
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== Birth ==
== Birth ==


What do we surmise:


She was baptised on the 5th September 1819 at Wymondham in Norfolk. Her father was [[Isaac Bartram]] and her mother was [[Phoebe Gay]]. Their abode was Bridewell Street, Wymondham and her father was a Husbandman.
She was baptised on the 5th September 1819 at Wymondham in Norfolk. Her father was [[Isaac Bartram]] and her mother was [[Phoebe Gay]]. Their abode was Bridewell Street, Wymondham and her father was a Husbandman.
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There is one potential record of such a marriage BMD:M: Elizabeth Bartram, Dec 1838, Norwich, 13, 635 - certificate on order. This page also has a John Smith on it. However, note that the register only started in 1837, so it is possible that if this is not the correct entry then the marriage predates registration.
There is one potential record of such a marriage BMD:M: Elizabeth Bartram, Dec 1838, Norwich, 13, 635 - certificate on order. This page also has a John Smith on it. However, note that the register only started in 1837, so it is possible that if this is not the correct entry then the marriage predates registration.
On the night of 6 June [[Smith Census#1841_MillSt|1841]] she was living with her family in Mill Street in the Hamlet of Lakenham, in Norwich. Interestingly, next door was the family of her parents [[Isaac Bartram|Isaac]] and [[Phoebe Gay|Phebe]] Bartram.


== Children ==
== Children ==
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== Other Records ==
== Other Records ==


Annoyingly there is another possible set of parents for Elizabeth, as there was an Elizabeth Bartram who was christened on the 25th April 1820 in Wymondham whose parents were John Bartram and Ann Payne/Pain. I need to double check which was correct - but currently I prefer the Phoebe connection!
Annoyingly there is another possible set of parents for Elizabeth, as there was an Elizabeth Bartram who was christened on the 25th April 1820 in Wymondham whose parents were John Bartram and Ann Payne/Pain. However, luckily, in the [[Smith Census#1841_MillSt|1841]] census there is an [[Isaac Bartram]] and [[Phoebe Gay|Phebe Bartram]] living next door to Elizabeth Smith, so this makes it highly probable that Isaac and Phebe are Elizabeth parents.

Revision as of 23:50, 10 January 2016

Born: Died: Married: John Smith Mother: Phebe Gay Father: Isaac Bartram Descendant: Phoebe Smith
Census 1841 1851 1861 1871 1881 1891 1901 1911 1921

Elizabeth Bartram (sometimes Bertram) was born in around 1819 in Wymondham, Norfolk. She married a John Smith and they had a daughter called Phoebe Smith.

Birth

She was baptised on the 5th September 1819 at Wymondham in Norfolk. Her father was Isaac Bartram and her mother was Phoebe Gay. Their abode was Bridewell Street, Wymondham and her father was a Husbandman.

Marriage

Elizabeth married John Smith probably between 1835 (when she was 16) and 1841 (the birth of the first child we know of).

There is one potential record of such a marriage BMD:M: Elizabeth Bartram, Dec 1838, Norwich, 13, 635 - certificate on order. This page also has a John Smith on it. However, note that the register only started in 1837, so it is possible that if this is not the correct entry then the marriage predates registration.

On the night of 6 June 1841 she was living with her family in Mill Street in the Hamlet of Lakenham, in Norwich. Interestingly, next door was the family of her parents Isaac and Phebe Bartram.

Children

John and Elizabeth had the following children:

  • Robert Smith, born ~1841, Norwich.
  • Sarah Ann Smith, born ~1843, Norwich.
  • Phoebe Smith, born 17 April 1845, Norwich.
  • George W/N Smith, born ~1849, Norwich.
  • Hannah Smith, born ~1850, Norwich.
  • Cabel Smith, born ~1872, Norwich.

On the night of 30 March 1851 Elizabeth was living with her husband John Smith and five children including daughter Phoebe Smith at Mill Street, Lakenham, Norwich.

Other Records

Annoyingly there is another possible set of parents for Elizabeth, as there was an Elizabeth Bartram who was christened on the 25th April 1820 in Wymondham whose parents were John Bartram and Ann Payne/Pain. However, luckily, in the 1841 census there is an Isaac Bartram and Phebe Bartram living next door to Elizabeth Smith, so this makes it highly probable that Isaac and Phebe are Elizabeth parents.